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Tipitaka >> Sutta Pitaka >> Digha Nikaya >> Silakkhandha-vagga >> 1.13: Tevijja Sutta (DN 13)

1. Thus have I heard. When the Exalted One was once journeying through Kosala with a great company of the brethren, with about five hundred brethren, he came to the Brahman village in Kosala which is called Manasàkaña. And there at Manasàkaña the Exalted One stayed in the mango grove, on the bank of the river Aciravatã, to the north of Manasàkaña.

2. Now at that time many very distinguished and wealthy Brahmans were staying at Manasàkaña; to wit, Kaïkã the Brahman, Tàrukkha the Brahman, Pokkharasàdi the Brahman, Jàõussoõi the Brahman, Todeyya the Brahman, and other very distinguished and wealthy Brahmans.

3. Now a conversation sprung up between Vàseññha and Bhàradvàja, when they were taking exercise (after their bath) and walking up and down, in thoughtful mood, as to which was the true path, and which the false.

4. The young Brahman Vàseññha spake thus:

`This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà. I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasàdi.'

5. The young Brahman Bhàradvàja spake thus:

`This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà. I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Tàrukkha.'

6. But neither was the young Brahman Vàseññha able to convince the young Brahman Bhàradvàja, nor was the young Brahman Bhàradvàja able to convince the young Brahman Vàseññha.

7. Then the young Brahman Vàseññha said to the young Brahman Bhàradvàja:

`That Samaõa Gotama, Bhàradvàja, of the sons of the Sàkyas, who went out from the Sàkya clan to adopt the religious life, is now staying at Manasàkaña, in the mango grove, on the bank of the river Aciravatã, to the north of Manasàkaña. Now regarding that venerable Gotama, such is the high reputation that has been noised abroad: "That Exalted One is an Arahat, a fully enlightened one, abounding in wisdom and goodness, happy, with knowledge of the worlds, unsurpassed as a guide to mortals willing to be led, a teacher of gods and men, an Exalted One, a Buddha."

Come, then, Bhàradvàja, let us go to the place where the Samaõa Gotama is; and when we have come there, let us ask the Samaõa Gotama touching this matter. What the Samaõa Gotama shall declare unto us, that let us bear in mind.

`Very well, my friend!' said the young Brahman Bhàradvàja, in assent, to the young Brahman Vàseññha.

8. Then the young Brahman Vàseññha and the young Brahman Bhàradvàja went on to the place where the Exalted One was.

And when they had come there, they exchanged with the Exalted One the greetings and compliments of politeness and courtesy, and sat down beside him.

And while they were thus seated the young Brahman Vàseññha said to the Exalted One:

`As we, Gotama, were taking exercise and walking up and down, there sprung up a conversation between us on which was the true path, and which the false. I said thus:

`"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà. I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasàdi."'

`Bhàradvàja said thus:

`"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà. I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Tàrukkha."'

`Regarding this matter, Gotama, there is a strife, a dispute, a difference of opinion between us.'

9. `So you say, Vàseññha, that you said thus:

This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà.

I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasàdi."'

`While Bhàradvàja said thus:

`"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà. I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Tàrukkha."'

`Wherein, then, O Vàseññha, is there a strife, a dispute, a difference of opinion between you?'

10. `Concerning the true path and the false, Gotama. Various Brahmans, Gotama, teach various paths. The Addhariyà Brahmans, the Tittiriyà Brahmans, the Chandokà Brahmans [the Chandavà Brahmans], the Bavharijà Brahmans. Are all those saving paths? Are they all paths which will lead him, who acts according to them, into a state of union with Brahmà?

`Just, Gotama, as near a village or a town there are many and various paths, yet they all meet together in the village,just in that way are all the various paths taught by various Brahmans,the Addhariyà Brahmans, the Tittiriyà Brahmans, the Chandokà, Brahmans [the Chandavà Brahmans], the Bavharijà Brahmans. Are all these saving paths? Are they all paths which will lead him, who acts according to them, into a state of union with Brahmà?'

11. `Do you say that they all lead aright, Vàseññha?'

`I say so, Gotama.'

`Do you really say that they all lead aright, Vàseññha?

`So I say, Gotama.'

12. 1 But yet, Vàseññha, is there a single one of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, who has ever seen Brahmà, face to face

`No, indeed, Gotama.'

`Or is there then, Vàseññha, a single one of the teachers of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas who has seen Brahmà face to face

`No, indeed, Gotama!'

`Or is there then, Vàseññha, a single one of the pupils of the teachers of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas who has seen Brahmà face to face?' `No, indeed, Gotama!'

`Or is there then, Vàseññha, a single one of the Brahmans up to the seventh generation who has seen Brahmà face to face?'

`No, indeed, Gotama!'

13. `Well then, Vàseññha, those ancient Rishis of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, the authors of the verses, the utterers of the verses, whose, ancient form of words so chanted, uttered, or composed, the Brahmans of to-day chant over again or repeat; intoning or reciting exactly as has been intoned or recited,to wit, Aññhaka, Vàmaka, Vàmadeva, Vessàmitta, Yamataggi, Aïgirasa, Bhàradvàja, Vàseññha, Kassapa, and Bhagu did even they speak thus, saying: "We know it, we have seen it, where Brahmà is whence Brahmà is, whither Brahmà is?"'

`Not so, Gotama!'

14. `Then you say, Vàseññha that none of the Brahmans, or of their teachers, or of their pupils, even up to the seventh generation, has ever seen Brahmà face to face. And that even the Rishis of old, the authors and utterers of the verses, of the ancient form of words which the Brahmans of to-day so carefully intone and recite precisely as they have been handed down,even they did not pretend to know or to have seen where or whence or whither Brahmà is. So that the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas have forsooth said thus: "What we know not, what we have not seen, 'to a state of union with that we can show the way, and can say: 'This Is the straight path, this is the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmà!"'

`Now, what think you, Vàseññha? Does it not follow, this being so, that the talk of the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, turns out to be foolish talk.

In sooth, Gotama, that being, so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'

15. `Verily, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which they do not know, neither have seen,such a condition of things can in no wise be!

`Just, Vàseññha, as when a string of blind men are clinging one to the other, neither can the foremost see, nor can the middle one see, nor can the hindmost see,just even so, methinks, Vàseññha, is the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas but blind talk: the first sees not, the middle one sees not, nor can the latest see. The talk then of these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas turns out to be ridiculous, mere words, a vain and empty thing!'

16. `Now what think you, Vàseññha? Can the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas,like other, ordinary, folk,see the Moon and the Sun as they pray to, and praise, and worship them, turning round with clasped hands towards the place whence they rise and where they set?'

`Certainly, Gotama, they can.'

17. `Now what think you, Vàseññha? The Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, who can very well,like other, ordinary, folk,see the Moon and the Sun as they pray to, and praise, and worship them, turning round with clasped hands to the place whence they rise and where they set,are those Brahmans, versed in the Three Vedas, able to point out the way to a state of union with the Moon or the Sun, saying: "This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, to a state of union with the Moon or the Sun?"'

`Certainly, not, Gotama.'

18. `So you say, Vàseññha, that the Brahmans are not able to point out the way to union with that which they have seen, and you further say that neither any one of them, nor of their pupils, nor of their predecessors even to the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmà, And you further say that even the Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep respect, did not pretend to know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither Brahmà is. Yet these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they can point out the way to union with that which they know not, neither have seen. Now what think you, Vàseññha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk of the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, turns out to be foolish talk?'

`In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'

19. `Very good, Vàseññha. Verily then, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which they do not know, neither have seen,such a condition of things can in no wise be!'

`Just, Vàseññha, as if a man should say, "How I long for, how I love the most beautiful woman in this land!"'

`And people should ask him, "Well! good friend! this most beautiful woman in the land, whom you thus love and long for, do you know whether that beautiful woman is a noble lady or a Brahman woman, or of the trader class, or a Sådra?"'

`But when so asked, he should answer: "No."

`And when people should ask him, "Well! good friend! this most beautiful woman in all the land, whom you so love and long for, do you know what the name of that most beautiful woman is, or what is her family name, whether she be tall or short or of medium height, dark or brunette or golden in colour, or in what village or town or city she dwells?"'

`But when so asked, he should answer: "No".'

`And then people should say to him, So then, good friend, whom you know not, neither have seen, her do you love and long for?

`And then when so asked, he should answer: "Yes."

`Now what think you, Vàseññha? Would it not turn out, that being so, that the talk of that man was foolish talk?'

`In sooth, Gotama, it would turn out, that being so, that the talk of that man was foolish talk!'

20. `And just even so, Vàseññha though you I say that the Brahmans are not able to point out the way to union with that which they have seen, and you further say that neither any one of them, nor of their pupils, nor of their predecessors even to the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmà. And you further say that even the Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep respect, did not pretend to know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither Brahmà is. Yet these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they can point out the way to union with that which they know not, neither have seen Now what think you, Vàseññha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk of the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, is foolish talk?'

`In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'

`Very good, Vàseññha. Verily then, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which they do not know, neither have seen,such a condition of things can in no wise be.'

21. `Just, Vàseññha, as if a man should make a staircase in the place where four roads cross, to mount up into a mansion. And people should say to him, "Well, good friend, this mansion, to mount up into which you are making this staircase, do you know whether it is in the east, or in the south, or in the west, or in the north? whether it is high or low or of medium size?"'

`And when so asked, he should answer: "No".'

`And people should say to him, "But then, good friend, you are making a staircase to mount up into something,taking it for a mansion,which, all the while, you know not, neither have seen!"'

`And when so asked, he should answer: "Yes".'

`Now what think you, Vàseññha? Would it not turn out. that being so, that the talk of that man was foolish talk?'

`In sooth, Gotama, it would turn out, that being so, that the talk of that man was foolish talk!'

22. `And just even so, Vàseññha, though you say that the Brahmans are not able to point out the way to union with that which they have seen, and you further say that neither any one of them, nor of their pupils, nor of their predecessors even to the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmà. And you further say that even the Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep respect, did not pretend to know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither Brahmà is. Yet these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they can point out the way to union with that which they know not, neither have seen! Now what think you, Vàseññha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk?'

`In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'

23. `Very good, Vàseññha. Verily then, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which they do not know, neither have seen,such a condition of things can in no wise be.'

24. `Again, Vàseññha, if this river Aciravatã were full of water even to the brim, and over flowing. And a man with business on the other side, bound for the other side, making, for the other side, should come up, and want to cross over. And he, standing on this bank, should invoke the further bank, and say, "Come hither, O further bank! come over to this side!"'

`Now what think you, Vàseññha? Would the further bank of the river Aciravatã, by reason of that man's invoking and praying and hoping and praising, come over to this side?'

`Certainly not, Gotama!'

25. `In just the same way, Vàseññha, do the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas,,omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men non-Brahmans-say thus: "Indra we call upon, Soma we call upon, Varuõa we call upon, äsàna we call upon, Pajàpati we call upon, Brahmà we call upon, [Mahiddhi we call upon, Yama we call upon!" Verily, Vàseññha, that those Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, but omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men non-Brahmans,that they, by reason of their invoking and praying and hoping and praising, should, after death and when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahmà verily such a condition of things can in no wise be!'

26. `Just, Vàseññha, as if this river Aciravatã were full, even to the brim, and overflowing. And a man with business on the other side, making for the other side, bound for the other side, should come up, and want to cross over. And he, on this bank, were to be bound tightly, with his arms behind his back, by a strong chain. Now what think you, Vàseññha, would that man be able to get over from this bank of the river Aciravatã to the further bank?'

`Certainly not, Gotama!'

27. `In the same way, Vàseññha, there are five things leading to lust, which are called, in the Discipline of the Arahats, a "chain" and a "bond." '

`What are the five?'

`Forms perceptible to the eye; desirable, agreeable, pleasant, attractive forms, that are accompanied by lust and cause delight. Sounds of the same kind perceptible to the ear. Odours of the same kind perceptible to the nose. Tastes of the same kind perceptible to the tongue. Substances of the same kind perceptible to the body by touch. These five things predisposing to passion are called, in the Discipline of the Arahats, a "chain" and a "bond."And these five things predisposing to lust, Vàseññha, do the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas cling to, they are infatuated by them, attached to them, see not the dancer of them, know not how unreliable they are, and so enjoy them'.

28. `And verily, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, but omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men non-Brahmans,clinging to these five things predisposing to passion, infatuated by them, attached to them, see not their danger, knowing not their unreliability, and so enjoying them,that these Brahmans should after death, on the dissolution of the body, become united to Brahmà,,such a condition of things can in no wise be!'

29. `Again, Vàseññha, if this river Aciravatã were full of water even to the brim, and overflowing. And a man with business on the other side, making for the other side, bound for the other side, should come up, and want to cross over. And if he covering himself up, even to his head, were to lie down, on this bank, to sleep.'

`Now what think you, Vàseññha? Would that man be able to get over from this bank of the river Aciravatã to the further bank?'

`Certainly not, Gotama!'

30. `And in the same way, Vàseññha, there are these Five Hindrances, in the Discipline of, the Arahats, which are called "veils," and are called "hindrances," and are called "obstacles," and are called "entanglements".'

`Which are the five?'

`The hindrance of worldly lusts, The hindrance of ill will, The hindrance of torpor and sloth of heart and mind. The hindrance of flurry and worry, The hindrance of suspense.

`These are the Five Hindrances, Vàseññha, which, in the Discipline of the Arahats, are called veils, and are called hindrances, and are called obstacles and are called entanglements.'

`Now with these Five Hindrances, Vàseññha, the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas are veiled, hindered, obstructed, and entangled.

`And verily, Vàseññha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, but omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men non-Brahmans,veiled, hindered, obstructed, and entangled by these Five Hindrances,that these Brahmans should after death, on the dissolution of the body, become united to Brahmà,such a condition of things can in no wise be!'

31. `Now what think you, Vàseññha , and what have you heard from the Brahmans aged and well-stricken in years, when the learners and teachers are talking together? Is Brahmà, in possession of wives and wealth, or is he not?'

`He is not, Gotama.'

`Is his mind full of anger, or free from anger?'

`Free from anger, Gotama.'

Is his mind full of malice, or free from malice?'

`Free from malice, Gotama.'

`Is his mind tarnished, or, is it pure?'

`It is pure, Gotama.'

Has he self-mastery, or has he not?'

`He has, Gotama.'

32. `Now what think you, Vàseññha, are the Brahmans versed in the Vedas in the possession of wives and wealth, or are they not?'

`They are, Gotama.'

`Have they anger in their hearts, or have they not?

`They have, Gotama.'

`Do they bear malice, or do they not?'

`They do, Gotama.'

`Are they pure in heart, or are they not?'

`They are not, Gotama.'

`Have they self-mastery, or have they not?'

`They have not, Gotama.'

33. `Then you say, Vàseññha, that the Brahmans are in possession of wives and wealth, and that Brahmà is not. Can there, then, be agreement and likeness between the Brahmans with their wives and property, and Brahmà, who has none of these things?'

`Certainly not, Gotama!'

34. `Very good, Vàseññha. But, verily, that these Brahmans versed in the Vedas, who live married and wealthy, should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahmà, who has none of these things,such a condition of things can in no wise be!'

35. `Then you say, too, Vàseññha, that the Brahmans bear anger and malice in their hearts, and are tarnished in heart and uncontrolled, whilst Brahmà is free from anger and malice, pure in heart, and has self-mastery. Now can there, then, be concord and likeness between the Brahmans and Brahmà?'

`Certainly not, Gotama!'

36. `Very good, Vàseññha. That these Brahmans versed in the Vedas and yet bearing anger and malice in their hearts, sinful, and uncontrolled, should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united to Brahmà, who is free from anger and malice, pure in heart, and has self-mastery,such a condition of things can in no wise be!

`So that thus then, Vàseññha, the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, while they sit down (in confidence), are sinking down (in the mire); and so sinking they are arriving only at despair, thinking the while that they are crossing over into some happier land.'

`Therefore is it that the threefold wisdom of the Brahmans, wise in their Three Vedas, is called a waterless desert, their threefold wisdom is called a pathless jungle, their threefold wisdom is called perdition!'

37. When he had thus spoken, the young Brahman Vàseññha said to the Blessed One:

`It has been told me, Gotama, that the Samaõa Gotama knows the way to the state of union with Brahmà.'

`What do you think, Vàseññha, is not Manasàkaña near to this spot, not distant from this spot?'

`Just so, Gotama. Manasàkaña is near to, is not far from here.'

`Now what think you, Vàseññha, suppose there were a man born in Manasàkaña, and people should ask him, who never till that time had left Manasàkaña, which was the way to Manasàkaña. Would that man, born and brought up in Manasàkaña, be in any doubt or difficulty?'

`Certainly not, Gotama! And why? If the man had been born and brought up in Manasàkaña, every road that leads to Manasàkaña would be perfectly familiar to him.'

38. `That man, Vàseññha, born and brought up at Manasàkaña might, if he were asked the way to Manasàkaña, fall into doubt and difficulty, but to the Tathàgata, when asked touching the path which leads to the world of Brahmà, there can be neither doubt nor difficulty. For Brahmà, I know, Vàseññha,. and the world of Brahmà, and the path which leadeth unto it. Yea, I know it even as one who has entered the Brahmà-world, and has been born within it!'

39. When he had thus spoken ,Vàseññha, the young Brahman, said to the Blessed One:

`Just so has it been told me, Gotama, even that the Samaõa Gotama knows the way to a state of union with Brahmà. It is well! Let the venerable Gotama be pleased to show us the way to a state of union with Brahmà, let the venerable Gotama save the Brahman race'!

`Listen then, Vàseññha, and give ear attentively, and I will speak!'

`So be it, Lord!' said the young Brahman Vàseññha, in assent, to the Blessed One.

40. Then the Blessed One spake, and said:

`Know, Vàseññha, that (from time to time) a Tathàgata is born into the world, an Arahat, a fully awakened one, abounding, in wisdom and goodness, happy, with knowledge of the worlds, unsurpassed as a guide to mortals willing to be led, a teacher of gods and men, a Blessed One, a Buddha. He, by himself, thoroughly understands, and sees, as it were, face to face this universe,including the worlds above with the cods, the Màras, and the Brahmàs; and the world below with its Samaõas and Brahmans, its princes and peoples;,and he then makes his knowledge known to others. The truth doth he proclaim both in the letter and in the spirit, lovely in its origin, lovely in its progress, lovely in its consummation: the higher life doth he make known, in all its purity and in all its perfectness.'

41. `A householder (gahapati), or one of his children, or a man of inferior birth in any class, listens to that truth. On hearing the truth he has faith in the Tathàgata, and when he has acquired that faith he thus considers with himself:

"Full of hindrances is household life, a path defiled by passion: free as the air is the life of him who has renounced all worldly things. How difficult it is for the man who dwells at home to live the higher life in all its fullness, in all its purity, in all its bright perfection! Let me then cut off my hair and beard, let me clothe myself in the orange-coloured robes, and let me go forth from a household life into the hermit state."

`Then before long, forsaking his portion of wealth, be it great or be it small; forsaking his circle of relatives, be they many or be they few, he cuts off his hair and beard, he clothes himself in the orange-coloured robes. and he goes forth from the household life into the hermit state.

42. `When he has thus become a recluse he passes a life self-restrained by that restraint which should be binding on a recluse. Uprightness is his delight, and he sees danger in the least of those things he should avoid. He adopts and trains himself in the precepts. He encompasses himself with goodness in word and deed. He sustains his life by means that are quite pure; good is his conduct, guarded the door of his senses; mindful and self-possessed, he is altogether happy!'

43-75. `And how, Vàseññha, is his conduct good?'

76. `And he lets his mind pervade one quarter of the world with thoughts of Love, and so the second, and so the third, and so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world, above, below, around, and everywhere, does he continue to pervade with heart of Love, far-reaching, grown great, and beyond measure.'

77. `Just, Vàseññha, as a mighty trumpeter makes himself heard,and that without difficulty,in all the four directions; even so of all things that have shape or life, there is not one that he passes by or leaves aside, but regards them all with mind set free, and deep-felt love.'

`Verily this, Vàseññha, is the way to a state of union with Brahmà.'

78. `And he lets his mind pervade one quarter of the world with thoughts of pity, sympathy, equanimity, and so the second, and so the third, and so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world, above, below, around, and everywhere, does he continue to pervade with heart of pity, ... sympathy, ... equanimity, far-reaching, grown great, and beyond measure.'

79. `Just, Vàseññha, as a mighty trumpeter makes himself heard,and that without difficulty,in all the four directions ; even so of all things that have shape or life, there is not one that he passes by or leaves aside, but regards them all with mind set free, and deep-felt pity, sympathy, equanimity.'

`Verily this, Vàseññha, is the way to a state of union with Brahmà.'

80. `Now what think you, Vàseññha, will the Bhikkhu who lives thus be in possession of women and of wealth, or will he not?'

`He will not, Gotama!'

`Will he be full of anger, or free from anger?'

`He will be free from anger, Gotama!'

`Will his mind be full of malice, or free from malice?'

`Free from malice, Gotama!'

`Will his mind be tarnished, or pure?'

`It will be pure, Gotama!'

`Will he have self-mastery, or will he not?'

`Surely he will, Gotama!'

81. `Then you say, Vàseññha, that the Bhikkhu is free from household and worldly cares, and that Brahmà is free from household and worldly cares. Is therethen agreement and likeness between the Bhikkhu and Brahmà?'

`There is, Gotama!

`Very good, Vàseññha. Then in sooth, Vàseññha, that the Bhikkhu who is free from household cares should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahmà, who is the same,such a condition of things is every way possible!'

`And so you say, Vàseññha, that the Bhikkhu is free from anger, and free from malice, pure in mind, and master of himself; and that Brahmà is free from anger, and free from malice, pure in mind, and master of himself. Then in sooth, Vàseññha, that the Bhikkhu who is free from anger, free from malice, pure in mind, and master of himself should after death, when the body is dissolved, become united with Brahmà, who is the same,such a condition of things is every way possible!'

82. When he had thus spoken, the young. Brahmans Vàseññha and Bhàradvàja addressed the Blessed One, and said:

`Most excellent, Lord, are the words of thy mouth, Most excellent! Just as if a man were to set up that which is thrown down, or were to reveal that which is hidden away, or were to point out the right road to him who has gone astray, or were to bring a lamp into the darkness, so that those who have eyes can see external forms ;,just even so, Lord, has the truth been made known to us, in many a figure, by the Exalted One. And we, even we, betake ourselves, Lord, to the Blessed One as our guide, to the Truth, and to the Brotherhood. May the Blessed One accept us as disciples, as true believers, from this day forth, as long as life endures!'

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