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Translation by T. W. Rhys Davids


Thus have I heard :

1. The Exalted One was once staying near Rajagaha, on the Vulture's Peak. Now at that time there was sojourning in QueenUdumbarikasPark assigned to the Wanderers the Wanderer Nigrodha,1 together with a great company of Wanderers, even three thousand. Now the householder Sandhana went forth in the afternoon from Rajagaha to call on the Exalted One. Then it occurred to him : It is not timely to call just now on the Exalted One ; he will be in retirement. Nor is it the hour for calling on the brethren who are practising mind-culture ; they will be in retirement. What if I were to go to Udumbarika s Park and find out Nigrodha, the Wanderer ? And Sandhana did so.

2. Now at that time Nigrodha the Wanderer was seated with his large company, all talking with loud voices, with noise and clamour, carrying on childish talk of various kinds, to wit : tales of kings, robbers [37] and state officials ; tales of armies, panics, and battles ; talk about foods and drinks, and clothes, beds, garlands, and perfumes ; talks about relatives ; talks about carriages, villages, towns, cities, and countries ; talks about women ;1 talks of heroes ; gossip from street- corners and the places for drawing water ; ghost- stories ; desultory talk ; speculative talk on the world and the sea ; on existence and non-existence.

3. And Nigrodha the Wanderer saw the householder Sandhana approaching in the distance, and called his own company to order, saying : Be still, sirs, and make no noise. Here is a disciple of the Samana Gotama coming, the householder Sandhana. Whatever white-robed lay disciples of Gotama there be dwelling at Kajagaha, this Sandhana is one of them. Now these good gentlemen delight in quiet ; they are trained in quiet ; they speak in praise of quiet. How well it were if, seeing how quiet the assembly is, he should see fit to join us. And when he spake thus, the Wanderers kept silence.

4. Now the householder Sandhana came on to where Nigrodha the Wanderer was, and exchanged with him the greetings and compliments of civility and courtesy, and sat down beside him. So seated, Sandhana said to Nigrodha : Different is the way in which these reverend Wanderers, holding views of their own, talk when they have met and are come together, from the practice of the Exalted One. They talk with loud voices, with noise and clamour, carrying on childish talk of various kinds (to wit . . . [38] on existence and non-existence). But the Exalted One haunts the lonely and remote recesses of the forest, where noise, where sound there hardly is, where the breezes from the pastures blow,1 yet which are hidden from the eyes of men, suitable for self-communing.

5. And when Sandhana had spoken, Nigrodha to him made answer : Look you now, householder, know you with whom the Samana Gotama talks ? With whom he holds conversation ? By intercourse with whom does he attain to lucidity in wisdom ? 2 The Samana Gotama's insight is ruined by his habit of seclusion. He is not at home in conducting an assembly. He is not ready in conversation. He is occupied only with the fringes of things.3 Even as a one-eyed cow that, walking in a circle, follows only the outskirts, so is the Samana Gotama. Why forsooth, householder, if the Samana Gotama were to come to this assembly, with a single question only could we settle him ; yea, methinks we could roll him over like an empty pot.

6. Now the Exalted One heard with his clairaudient sense of hearing, pure, and surpassing that of man, this conversation between Sandhana the householder and Nigrodha the Wanderer. And descending from the Vulture's Peak, he came to the Peacocks' Feeding-ground on the bank of the Sumagadha 1 and there walked to and fro in the open air. Then Nigrodha saw him thus walking, and on seeing him he called his company to order, saying : Be still, sirs, and make no noise. The Samana Gotama is walking to and fro in the open air at the Peacocks' Feeding- ground, by the bank of the Sumagadha. Now this good gentleman delights in quiet, speaks in praise of quiet ; how well it were if, seeing how quiet the assembly is, he should see fit to join us. If the Samana Gotama should come to this assembly, we might ask him this question ; What, lord, is this religion of the Exalted one wherein he trains his disciples, and which those disciples, so trained by the Exalted One as to win comfort, acknowledge to be their utmost support and the fundamental principle of righteousness 2 ?

When he had said this the Wanderers kept silence.

7. Then the Exalted One went up to Nigrodha the Wanderer, and Nigrodha spake thus to him : Let the lord the Exalted One approach. Welcome is the lord the Exalted One! Long has the lord the Exalted One taken ere deciding on this step of coming hither. May it please the lord the Exalted One to take a seat. Here is one ready.

The Exalted One sat down on the seat made ready, and Nigrodha, taking a low seat, sat beside him. To him so seated the Exalted One spake thus: On what talk, Nigrodha, are ye here and now engaged as ye sit together, and what conversation between you have I interrupted ? [40] Thereupon Nigrodha replied to the Exalted One and said : Lord, we have just seen the Exalted One walking in the open air at the Peacocks' Feeding- ground, by the Sumagadha, and seeing him thus, we said : If the Samana Gotama should come to this assembly, we could ask him this question : What, lord, is this religion of the Exalted One, wherein he trains his disciples, and which those disciples, so trained by the Exalted One as to win comfort, acknowledge to be their utmost support and the fundamental principle of righteousness ?

Difficult is it, Nigrodha, for one of another view, of another persuasion, of another confession, without practice and without teaching, to understand that wherein I train my disciples, and which they, so trained as to win comfort, acknowledge to be their utmost support and the fundamental principle of righteousness. Come now, Nigrodha, ask me a question about your own doctrine, about austere scrupulousness of life :1 in what does the fulfilment, in what does the non-fulfilment of these self-mortifications consist ?

When he had said this, the Wanderers exclaimed loudly, with noise and clamour: Wonderful, sir! Marvellous is it, sir, the great gifts and powers of the Samana Gotama in withholding his own theories and inviting; the discussion of those of others !

8. Then Nigrodha bade the Wanderers be quiet, and spake thus to the Exalted One : We, lord, profess self-mortifying austerities ; we hold them to be essential ; we cleave to them. In what does the fulfilment, in what does the non-fulhlment of them consist ? Suppose, Nigrodha, that an ascetic 2 goes naked, is of certain loose habits, licks his hands, respects no Approach, sir, nor Stop, sir ; [41] accepts nothing expressly brought, nor expressly prepared, nor any invitations. He accepts nothing taken from mouth of cooking- pot, nor placed within the threshold, nor within a mortar, nor among sticks, nor within a quern ; nor anything from two eating together, nor from a pregnant woman, nor from a nursing mother, nor from a woman in intercourse with a man, nor food collected in drought, nor from where a dog is, nor from where flies are swarming, nor will he accept fish or meat, nor drink strong drink, or intoxicants, or gruel. He is either a onehouser, a one-mouthful man ; or a two-houser, a two mouthful man ; or a seven-houser, a seven-mouthful man. He maintains himself on one alms, on two, or on seven. He takes food once a day, or once every two days, or once every seven days. Thus does he dwell addicted to the practice of taking food according to rule, at regular intervals, up to even half a month. He feeds either on potherbs, or wild rice, or nivara seeds, or leather parings, or on hata, or on the powder in rice rusks, on rice-scum, on flour of oil-seeds, on grasses, on cowdung, on fruits and roots from the woods, [42] or on windfalls. He wears coarse hempen cloth, coarse mixture cloth, discarded corpse-cloths, discarded rags, or tirita-bark cloth ; or again, he wears antelope-hide, or strips of the same netted, or kusa- fibre, or bark garments, or shale cloth, or a human- hair blanket, or a horse-hair blanket, or an owl's-feather garment. He is a hair-and-beard plucker, addicted to the practice of plucking out both ; a stander-up ; a croucher on heels, addicted to exerting himself (to move forward) when thus squatting ; a bed-of-thorns man, putting iron spikes or thorns on his couch ; he uses a plank-bed ; sleeps on the ground ; sleeps only on one side ; is a dust-and-dirt wearer and an open-air man ; a where-you-will sitter ; a filth-eater, addicted to the practice of eating such ; a non-drinker, addicted to the practice of never drinking (cold water) ; an evening-for-third-time-man. What think you, Nigrodha ? If these things be so, is the austerity of self-mortification carried out, or is it not ?

Truly, lord, if these things be so, the austerity of self-mortification is carried out, and not the contrary.

Now I, Nigrodha, affirm that austerity by self- mortification, thus carried out, involves blemish 1 in several ways.

9. In what way, lord, do you affirm that blemish is involved ?

In case, Nigrodha, when an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity, he, through that course, becomes self-complacent, his aim is satisfied.2 Now this, Nigrodha, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. [43] And then again, Nigrodha, when an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity, he, through that undertaking, exalts himself and despises others. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. And again, Nigrodha, when an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity, he, through that undertaking, becomes inebriated and infatuated, and grows careless. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

10. And again, Nigrodha, when an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity, it procures for him gifts, attention, and fame. Thereby he becomes complacent and his aim is satisfied. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. And again, Nigrodha, by the winning of gifts, attentions, and fame, the ascetic exalts himself and despises others. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, by the winning of gifts, attentions, and fame, he becomes inebriated and infatuated, and grows careless. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, when an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity, he comes to make a distinction 3 in foods, saying : This suits me ; this doesn't suit me. The latter kind he deliberately rejects. Over the former he waxes greedy and infatuated, and cleaves to them, seeing not the danger in them, discerning them not as unsafe, and so enjoys them. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. [44] And again, Nigrodha, because of his longing for gifts, attentions and fame, he thinks : Rajas will pay me attentions, and so will their officials ; so, too, will nobles, brahmins, householders and founders of schools. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

11. And again, Nigrodha, an ascetic gets grumbling at some recluse or brahmin, saying : That man lives on all sorts of things : things grown from tubers, or shoots, or berries, or joints, or fifthly, from seeds, 1 munching them all up together with that wheel-less thunderbolt of a jawbone — and they call him a holy man !2 This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, an ascetic sees a certain recluse or brahmin receiving attentions ; being revered, honoured and presented with offerings by the citizens. And seeing this he thinks : The citizens pay attentions to this fellow who lives in luxury ; they revere and honour him, and present him with offerings, while to me who, as ascetic, live a really austere life, they pay no attentions, nor reverence, nor honour, nor offerings ! And so he cherishes envy and grudging at the citizens. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, an ascetic becomes one who sits in public.3 This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, the ascetic, when on his round for alms among the people, slinks along furtively,1 as if to say : This is part of my austerity ; this is part of my austerity. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. [45] And again, Nigrodha, the ascetic affects the mysterious. When asked : Do you approve of this ? he, not approving, says : I do, or approving, says : I do not. Thus he consciously tells untruths. . . . This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

12. And again, Nigrodha, when the Tathagata, or a disciple of the Tathagata, teaching the Norm, uses a method worthy of appreciation, the ascetic does not appreciate it. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

And again, Nigrodha, the ascetic is liable to lose his temper and bear enmity. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic. And again, Nigrodha, the ascetic is liable to be hypocritical and deceitful, as well as envious and grudging ; he becomes cunning and crafty, hard- hearted and vain, he entertains evil wishes and becomes captive to them ; he entertains false opinions, becomes possessed of metempirical dogma ;2 misinterprets his experience;3 is avaricious and adverse from renunciation. This, too, becomes a blemish in the ascetic.

What think you of this, Nigrodha ? Are these things blemishes in the austerities of self-mortification, or are they not ?

Verily, lord, these things are blemishes in the austerities of self-mortification. It is possible, lord, that an ascetic may be possessed even of all these blemishes, much more by one or other of them.

13. Now take the opposite case, Nigrodha : an ascetic undertakes a course of austerity. Through that course he does not become self-complacent, nor are his aims fulfilled [46]. This being so, he is to that degree purified.

And again, Nigrodha, he . . . does not exalt himself nor despise others . . .1 he does not become inebriated and infatuated and careless ... he is not made self-complacent and disdainful by gifts, attentions and fame, nor does he thereby exalt himself and despise others, nor does he thereby become inebriated, infatuated and careless ; he does not make a distinction between foods, saying : This suits me, this doesn't suit me, deliberately rejecting the latter, and waxing greedy and infatuated over the former, cleaving to them and enjoying them without seeing the danger in them, or discerning that they are unsafe ; he does not think, out of his longing for gifts, attentions and fame, Rajas will pay me attentions, and so will their officials ; so, too, will nobles, brahmins, householders and founders of schools.

14. And again, he does not grumble at some recluse or brahmin, saying [47] That man lives on all sorts of things — things for instance grown from tubers, or shoots, or berries, or joints, or fifthly, from seeds — munching them all up with that wheel-less thunderbolt of a jawbone, and they call him a holy man ! When he sees a certain recluse or brahmin receiving attention, being revered, honoured, and presented with offerings by the citizens, he does not think : The citizens pay attention to this fellow who lives on all sorts ; they revere and honour him and present him with offerings, while to me, who, as ascetic, live a really austere life, they pay no attentions, nor reverence, nor honour, nor offerings, and thus he does not cherish envy and grudging at the citizens ; he does not sit in public, nor slink about among the citizens as if to say : This is part of my austerity ; this is part of my austerity. He does not affect the mysterious, nor say when asked if he approves of this, I do approve, when he does not, or, I do not approve, when he does. Herein he avoids telling deliberate untruths.

15. And again, when the Tathagata, or a disciple of the Tathagata, teaching the Norm, uses a method worthy of appreciation, he appreciates it. And he does not lose his temper or bear enmity ; he does not become hypocritical and deceitful, envious and grudging, cunning and crafty, hard-hearted [48] and vain ; he does not entertain evil wishes, or become captive to them ; he does not entertain false opinions or become possessed of metempirical dogma, does not pervert experience, is not avaricious and averse from renunciation. In not becoming infected by empiricism, not being avaricious, given to renunciation — to that degree does he become purified. What think you, Nigrodha ? That being so, does the austerity by these things become genuinely pure, or not ?

Verily, lord, the austerity of these things becomes genuinely pure, and not impure ; it wins topmost rank, it reaches the pith 1

Nay, Nigrodha, not yet does the austerity become of topmost rank, nor reach the pith ; for that matter it has but reached the outside splinters.

16. In what way, lord, does an austerity win top-most rank, and reach the pith ? Good were it if the Exalted One caused my austerity to win topmost rank and reach the pith !

Take the case, Nigrodha, of an ascetic self- restrained by the Restraint of the Fourfold Watch. What is the Restraint of the Fourfold Watch.'' It is when an ascetic inflicts injury on no living thing, nor causes injury to be inflicted on any living thing, nor approves thereof. [49] He takes not what is not given, nor approves thereof. He utters no lies, nor causes lies to be uttered, nor approves thereof. He craves not for the pleasures of sense1 nor leads others to crave for them, nor approves thereof. Now it is thus, Nigrodha, that the ascetic becomes self-restrained by the Restraint of the Fourfold-Watch.

Now in that he is thus self-restrained, and his austerity is made to consist in this, he advances up- wards 2 and turns not back to lower things. He chooses 3 some lonely spot for his seat — in the forest, at the foot of a tree, on the hillside, in mountain glen, or rocky cave, in the charnel place, or on a heap of straw in the open fields. And returning thither after his round for alms, he seats himself when his meal is done, cross-legged, keeping his body erect, and his intelligence alert, intent. Putting away the hankering after the world, he abides with unhankering heart, and purifies his mind of covetousness. Putting away the canker of ill-will, he abides with heart free from enmity, benevolent and compassionate towards every living thing, 4 and purifies his mind of malevolence. Putting away sloth and torpor, he abides clear of both ; conscious of light, mindful and self-possessed, he purifies his mind of sloth and torpor. Putting away flurry and worry, he abides free from excitement ; with heart serene within, he purifies his mind of flurry and worry. Putting away doubt, he abides as one who has passed beyond perplexity ; no longer in suspense as to what is good, he purifies his mind of doubt.

17. He, having put away these Five Hindrances, and to weaken by insight the strength of the things that defile the heart, abides letting his mind, fraught with love,5 pervade one quarter of the world, and so too, the second quarter, and so the third, and so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world, above, below, around and everywhere, and altogether does he continue to pervade with love-burdened thought, abounding, [50] sublime, and beyond measure, free from hatred and ill-will. And he lets his mind, fraught with pity, pervade the world . . . and he lets his mind, fraught [with sympathy with joy],1 pervade . . . the world. And he lets his mind, fraught with equanimity, pervade one quarter of the world, and so the second quarter, and so the third, and so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world — above, below, around, and everywhere, and altogether does he continue to pervade with heart fraught with equanimity, abounding, sublime, and beyond measure, free from hatred and Ill-will.

What think you of this, Nigrodha? Does austerity by these things become genuinely pure or not ?

Verily, lord, austerity by these things becomes genuinely pure and not impure, wins topmost rank and reaches the pith.

Nay, Nigrodha, not yet does the austerity win topmost rank, or reality ; for that matter it does but reach into the bark.2

18. In what way, lord, does an austerity win top rank and reach the pith ? How good it were if the Exalted One could make my austerities win top rank and reach the pith !

Take the case, Nigrodha, of an ascetic who is self- restrained by the Restraint of the Fourfold Watch. In that he is thus self-restrained, and his austerity is made to consist in this, he advances upward and turns not back to lower things. He chooses some lonely spot for his seat . . . and, having put away those Five Hindrances, and to weaken by insight the strength of the things that defile the heart, abides letting his mind pervade the world, fraught with love . . . pity . . . sympathy . . . equanimity. He recalls to mind 1 his various temporary states in days gone by — one birth, or two, or three, or four, or five births, or ten, or twenty, or thirty, or forty, or fifty, or a hundred, [51] or a thousand, or a hundred thousand births, through many an aeon of dissolution, many an aeon of evolution : In such a place, such was my name, such my family, such my colour, such my food, such my experience of discomfort or of ease, and such the limits of my life. When I passed away from that estate, 1 took form again in such a place. There I had such and such a name and family and colour and food and experience of discomfort or of ease, and such was the limit of my life. When 1 passed away from that state, I took form again here . . . thus does he call to mind his temporary state in days gone by in all their details, and in all their modes.

What think you of that, Nigrodha ? Does the austerity by these things become genuinely pure or not ?

Verily, lord, the austerity by these things becomes genuinely pure and not impure, wins topmost rank and reaches the pith.

Nay, Nigrodha, not yet does the austerity win to topmost rank and reach the pith, although it does reach the underlying fibre.

19. But in what way, lord, does an austerity reach to the top and to the pith ? How well it were if the Exalted One could make my austerities attain to the top and to the pith !

Take the case, Nigrodha, of an ascetic who is self- restrained by the Restraint of the Fourfold Watch, who has put away the Five Hindrances, who has let his mind pervade the world with love, pity, sympathy, and equanimity, and has recalled to mind his various temporary states in days gone by, in all their details, [52] and in all their modes. He with the pure deva- vision, surpassing that of men, sees beings as they pass away from one form of existence and take shape in another ; he recognizes the mean and the noble, the well-favoured and the ill-favoured, the happy and the wretched, passing away according to their deeds : Such and such worthy folk,1 evil in act and word and thought, revilers of Ariyans, holding to wrong views, acquiring for themselves that karma which results from wrong views, they, on the dissolution of the body after death, are reborn in some unhappy state of suffering or woe ; but such and such beings, good in act and word and thought, no revilers of Ariyans, holding to right views, acquiring for themselves that karma that results from right views, they, on the dissolution of the body, are reborn in some happy state in heaven. Thus, with the pure deva-vision surpassing that of men, does he see beings as they pass away from one state of existence and take form in another ; he recognizes the mean and the noble, the well-favoured and the ill- favoured, the happy and the wretched, passing away according to their deeds. What think you of that, Nigrodha ?

Does austerity by these things become genuinely pure or not ? Verily, lord, austerity by these things becomes genuinely pure, and not impure ; it wins topmost rank and reaches the pith.

Thus, Nigrodha, does austerity win topmost rank and reach the pith. And so, Nigrodha, when you say to me : What, lord, is this religion of the Exalted One, wherein he trains his disciples, and which those disciples, so trained by the Exalted One as to win comfort, acknowledge to be their utmost support and the fundamental principle of righteousness ? I say that it is matter of a higher and more excellent degree wherein I train my disciples, so that they, so trained by me therein as to find comfort, acknowledge it to be their utmost support and the fundamental principle of righteous living.

When he had thus said, the Wanderers raised a clamour, exclaiming loudly and noisily : Herein are we and our teachers set at naught. We know of nothing beyond their teaching that is higher.

20. When the householder Sandhana realized : Surely now these Wanderers, though of other views, are listening to what the Exalted One has said, are paying attention, are applying their minds to understand, he then spake thus to Nigrodha :1 You were saying to me just now, Nigrodha : Look you now, householder, know you with whom the Samana Gotama talks ; with whom he holds conversation ; by intercourse with whom does he attain to lucidity in wisdom ? The Samana Gotama's insight is ruined by his habit of seclusion. He is not at home in conducting an assembly. He is not ready in conversation. He is occupied only with the fringes of things. Even as a one-eyed cow that, walking in a circle, follows ever the outskirts, so is the Samana Gotama. Why forsooth, householder, if the Samana Gotama were to come to this assembly, with a single question only could we settle him ; yea, methinks we could roll him over like an empty pot. Now then the lord the Exalted One, the Arahant Buddha Supreme, has arrived among us ; show ye him as not at home in an assembly ; show him to be as a one-eyed cow walking in a circle ; with your single question settle him now, roll him over methinks like an empty pot.

When he had thus said, Nigrodha sat silent and annoyed, with hunched back and drooping head, brooding and dumbfounded.

21. Now when the Exalted One perceived the state he was in, he said : Is it true, Nigrodha, that you made this speech ?

It is true, lord, that I made that speech, so foolish was I, so stupid, so wrong.

What think you of this, Nigrodha ? Have you ever heard it said by Wanderers who were venerable, aged, your teachers and teachers of your teachers, thus : They who in past ages were Arahants, Buddhas Supreme, forsooth, those Exalted Ones, when they were met and assembled, used to talk with loud voices, with noise and clamour, carrying on -childish talk of various kinds, to wit, talk of kings, robbers, and the like,1 or speculative talk about existence and non-existence, as you and your teachers do now ? Or did they say : Thus were those Exalted Ones wont to haunt the lonely and remote recesses of the forest, where noise, where sound there hardly is, where the breezes from the pastures blow, yet which were hidden from the eyes of men, meet for self-communing, even as I do now ?

Lord, I have heard it said by Wanderers who were venerable, aged, our teachers, and teachers of our teachers, thus : They who in past ages were Arahants, Buddhas Supreme, not theirs was it, when met and assembled, to talk with loud voices, with noise and clamour, carrying on childish talk of various kinds . . . or speculative talk about existence and non-existence, even as I do now in my own persuasion, but theirs was it to haunt the lonely and remote recesses of the forest, where noise, where sound there hardly is, where breezes from the pastures blow, yet which were hidden from the eyes of men, meet for self-communing, even as the Exalted One does now.

You yourself, Nigrodha, being intelligent and advanced in years, has not this occurred to you ? Enlightened is the Exalted One ; he teaches the religion of Enlightenment. Self-mastered 2 is the Exalted One ; he teaches the religion of Self-mastery. Calm is the Enlightened One ; he teaches the religion of Calm. Saved is the Enlightened One, [55] he teaches the religion of Salvation.1 At peace is the Enlightened One ; he teaches the religion of Peace. 2

22. When this was said, Nigrodha the Wanderer spake thus to the Exalted One:3 An offence has overcome me, lord, foolish and stupid and wrong that I am, who spoke thus about the Exalted One. May the Exalted One accept it of me, lord, that do so acknowledge it as an offence, to the end that in future I may restrain myself.

Verily, Nigrodha, it was an offence that overcame you in acting thus, foolish and stupid and wrong that you were, in that you spake thus of me. And inasmuch as you, Nigrodha, looking upon it as an offence, confess according to your deeds, we accept your confession. For that, Nigrodha, is custom in the discipline of the Ariyans, that whosoever looks upon his fault as a fault, and rightfully confesses it, shall in the future attain to self-restraint.

But I, Nigrodha, say this to you:4 Let a man of intelligence come to me, who is honest, candid, straightforward — I will instruct him, I will teach him the Norm. If he practise according as he is taught, then to know himself and to realize even here and now that supreme religion and goal, for the sake of which 5 clansmen go forth from the household life into the hermit state, will take him seven years. Nay, Nigrodha, let be the seven years. If he practice according as he is taught, then to know for himself and realize even here and now that supreme religion and goal, for the sake of which clansmen go forth from the household life into the hermit state, will take him six years, five years, four years, three years, two years, one year , . . six months . . . five [561 1'nonths, four, three, two months, one month, half a month. Nay, Nigrodha, let be half a month. Let a man of intelligence come to me, honest, candid, straight-forward ; I will instruct him, I will teach him the Norm, and if he practise according as he is taught, then to know for himself and to realize that supreme religion and goal, for the sake of which clansmen go forth from the household life into the hermit state, will take him seven days.

23. Maybe, Nigrodha, you will think : The Samana Gotama has said this from a desire to get pupils ; but you are not thus to explain my words. Let him who is your teacher be your teacher still. Maybe, Nigrodha, you will think : the Samana Gotama has said this from a desire to make us secede from our rule ; but you are not thus to explain my words. Let that which is your rule be your rule still. Maybe, Nigrodha, you will think : The Samana Gotama has said this from a desire to make us secede from our mode of livelihood ; but you are not thus to explain my words. Let that which is your mode of livelihood be so still. Maybe, Nigrodha, you will think : The Samana Gotama has said this from a desire to confirm us as to such points of our doctrines as are wrong, and reckoned as wrong by those in our community ; but you are not thus t(; explain my words. Let those points in your doctrines which are wrong and reckoned as wrong by those in your community, remain so still for you. Maybe, Nigrodha, you will think : The Samana Gotama has said this from a desire to detach us from such points in our doctrines as are good, reckoned as good by those in our community ; but you are not thus to explain my words. Let those points in your doctrines which are good, reckoned to be good by those in your community, remain so still.

Wherefore, Nigrodha, I speak thus, neither because I wish to gain pupils, nor because I wish to cause seceding from rule, nor [57] because I wish to cause seceding from mode of livelihood, nor because I wish to confirm you in bad doctrines, or detach you from good doctrines. But, O Nigrodha, there are bad things not put away, corrupting, entailing birth renewal, bringing suffering, resulting in ill, making for birth, decay and death in the future. And it is for the putting away of these that I teach the Norm, according to which if ye do walk, the things that corrupt shall be put away, the things that make for purity shall grow and flourish, and ye shall attain to and abide in, each one for himself even here and now, the understanding and the realization of full and abounding insight.

24. When he had thus said, the Wanderers sat silent and annoyed, with hunched back and drooping head, brooding and dumbfounded, so were their hearts given over to Mara.

Then the Exalted One thought : Every one of these foolish men is pervaded by the Evil One, so that to not even one of them will the thought occur : Come, let us now live the holy life taught by the Samana Gotama, that we may learn to know it. What does an interval of seven days matter?

Then the Exalted One having uttered his Lion's Roar in the park Queen Udumbarika had assigned to the Wanderers, rose up and went through the air, and alighted on the Vulture's Peak. And then, too, the householder Sandhana returned to Rajagaha.

(The Udumbarika Sihanfida-Suttanta is ended.)


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